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  "title": "News aggregators to converge toward Lifestreams/Scopeware interface?",
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  "html": "<p>Ziv Caspi of <a href=\"http://radio.weblogs.com/0106548/\">Y. B. Normal</a> thinks that \"<a href=\"http://radio.weblogs.com/0106548/2002/06/13.html#a25\">Aggregators should bring more, not less, information</a>\", and I'm inclined to agree.  Also, Adam <a href=\"http://ipwebdev.com/radio/2002/06/11.php#a193\">wants to take the aggregator</a> even further: \"...I think the entire computer interface should be overhauled to be more aggregator like, events streaming by.\"</p>\n<p>Along these lines, has anyone played with <a href=\"http://www.scopeware.com/products/prod_overview.html\">Scopeware</a>, built from the research of <a href=\"http://www.edge.org/3rd_cluture/bios/gelernter.html\">David Gelernter</a>?    I think it used to be called \"<a href=\"http://www.acm.org/sigchi/chi96/proceedings/videos/Fertig/etf.htm\">Lifestreams</a>\" before it was made into a product.  I first heard of this work back when I read <a href=\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/046504316X/0xdecafbad-20\">Machine Beauty : Elegance and the Heart of Technology</a>, and was very interested but haven't seen anything other than screenshots and mock-ups.  From what I can tell, this interface is literally \"events [and documents] streaming by\".</p>\n<p>The little I've picked up from Gelernter's work, along with a few other influences (ie. David Brin's <a href=\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/055329024X/0xdecafbad-20\">Earth</a>), has really stuck the picture in my head of how I want my future info-sieve to work.  </p>\n<p>Along with all of this, something else I was vaguely considering adding to my <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/news_archives/000187.phtml#000187\">AmphetaDesk outliner skin</a> was an IFRAME attached to <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RSS\">RSS</a> items under a collapsed node.  When the node gets expanded, the IFRAME is loaded up with the item's link.  The notion is that you do all your browsing from your <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RSS\">RSS</a> feeds in a single window and within the same context.  Neat idea, I think, giving a hook to pull more information into the aggregator upon request.  But of course if I do it, it'll likely be messy as hell for a zillion obvious reasons and catch my iBook on fire.</p>\n<p>Probably have more to ramble on about this later, but it's time for the first meeting of the day...</p>\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n<p>shortname=oooaif</p>\n",
  "body": "<p>Ziv Caspi of <a href=\"http://radio.weblogs.com/0106548/\">Y. B. Normal</a> thinks that \"<a href=\"http://radio.weblogs.com/0106548/2002/06/13.html#a25\">Aggregators should bring more, not less, information</a>\", and I'm inclined to agree.  Also, Adam <a href=\"http://ipwebdev.com/radio/2002/06/11.php#a193\">wants to take the aggregator</a> even further: \"...I think the entire computer interface should be overhauled to be more aggregator like, events streaming by.\"</p>\r\n<p>Along these lines, has anyone played with <a href=\"http://www.scopeware.com/products/prod_overview.html\">Scopeware</a>, built from the research of <a href=\"http://www.edge.org/3rd_cluture/bios/gelernter.html\">David Gelernter</a>?    I think it used to be called \"<a href=\"http://www.acm.org/sigchi/chi96/proceedings/videos/Fertig/etf.htm\">Lifestreams</a>\" before it was made into a product.  I first heard of this work back when I read <A href=\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/046504316X/0xdecafbad-20\">Machine Beauty : Elegance and the Heart of Technology</a>, and was very interested but haven't seen anything other than screenshots and mock-ups.  From what I can tell, this interface is literally \"events [and documents] streaming by\".</p>\r\n<p>The little I've picked up from Gelernter's work, along with a few other influences (ie. David Brin's <a href=\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/055329024X/0xdecafbad-20\">Earth</a>), has really stuck the picture in my head of how I want my future info-sieve to work.  </p>\r\n<p>Along with all of this, something else I was vaguely considering adding to my <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/news_archives/000187.phtml#000187\">AmphetaDesk outliner skin</a> was an IFRAME attached to <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RSS\">RSS</a> items under a collapsed node.  When the node gets expanded, the IFRAME is loaded up with the item's link.  The notion is that you do all your browsing from your <a href=\"http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RSS\">RSS</a> feeds in a single window and within the same context.  Neat idea, I think, giving a hook to pull more information into the aggregator upon request.  But of course if I do it, it'll likely be messy as hell for a zillion obvious reasons and catch my iBook on fire.</p>\r\n<p>Probably have more to ramble on about this later, but it's time for the first meeting of the day...</p>\r\n<!--more-->\r\nshortname=oooaif\r\n",
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  "summary": "Ziv Caspi of Y. B. Normal thinks that \"Aggregators should bring more, not less, information\", and I'm inclined to agree.  Also, Adam wants to take the aggregator even further: \"...I think the entire computer interface should be overhauled to be more aggregator like, events streaming by.\"\nAlong these lines, has anyone played with Scopeware, built from the research of David Gelernter?    I think it used to be called \"Lifestreams\" before it was made into a product.  I first heard of this work back when I read Machine Beauty : Elegance and the Heart of Technology, and was very interested but haven't seen anything other than screenshots and mock-ups.  From what I can tell, this interface is literally \"events [and documents] streaming by\".\nThe little I've picked up from Gelernter's work, along with a few other influences (ie. David Brin's Earth), has really stuck the picture in my head of how I want my future info-sieve to work.  \nAlong with all of this, something else I was vaguely considering adding to my AmphetaDesk outliner skin was an IFRAME attached to RSS items under a collapsed node.  When the node gets expanded, the IFRAME is loaded up with the item's link.  The notion is that you do all your browsing from your RSS feeds in a single window and within the same context.  Neat idea, I think, giving a hook to pull more information into the aggregator upon request.  But of course if I do it, it'll likely be messy as hell for a zillion obvious reasons and catch my iBook on fire.\nProbably have more to ramble on about this later, but it's time for the first meeting of the day...",
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