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title: "yahoo TV refreshed, redux and rejected"
date: 2006-12-02T15:25:28-05:00
url: https://blog.lmorchard.com/2006/12/02/yahoo-tv-refreshed-redux-and-rejected/
author: Les Orchard
tags: [asides, tv, yahoo]
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# yahoo TV refreshed, redux and rejected

Okay, I'm sick of it now, [like many others][tv].  I was dazzled by the AJAX pagination technique at first, because I think it's an interesting advance in AJAX in general.  But, I've been a user of the Yahoo! TV Grid - er Listings - for years now.  It's useless to me now, even after I re-discovered its location after my bookmark broke.  I hate to be harsh, but I'd outsourced a part of my brain the Yahoo! TV Grid, and suddenly that part of my brain is damaged.

*Update:* I've just noticed that this entry's [linked to by Dave Winer](http://www.scripting.com/2006/12/03.html#ifItAintBrokeDontFixIt), so maybe I'm in danger of being read.  :)  To be not-so-harsh, I had posted some suggestions to the above-linked blog entry, but I'm not sure if they'll get through the moderation queue.  Nothing sinister expected or asserted, just an overload of voices to which I'm but a late piler-on.

Basically, I'd be made happy by Yahoo! TV if they treated the TV listings grid as a valued entry point with in-context links to discussions and reviews from the the shows listed, and if they dropped the AJAX pagination to present the entire grid at once for in-browser search and random access visual scanning.  This relatively new AJAX pagination technique is pretty sweet, but better applied to data sets ordered by relevance and / or expected to be traversed in one direction.

Also, a note in general to other redesign teams:  Watch your entry points and don't break bookmarks unexpectedly.

[tv]: http://yodel.yahoo.com/2006/11/28/anything-good-on-tonight/

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            <div class="content"><p>Your "like many others" link is 404ing.</p></div>
            
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            <div class="content"><p>Doh't.  Used some parens when I mean square braces in my Markdown.</p></div>
            
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